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Date:  Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:01:44 -0700
From:  Dustin Krysak <chaos (at mark) digitalcollision.com>
Subject:  [coba-e:07629] mailing list issue
To:  coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
Message-Id:  <4537CB98.1010009 (at mark) digitalcollision.com>
X-Mail-Count: 07629


I just wanted to add further to this issue...

I have since restarted sendmail and the bounce backs have stopped.

Now when posting to the list, I have the following issues:


1) From 1 address, when i send a test message to the list, the list 
admin gets a notice that a person who is not subscribed tried to post - 
even though the email address is subscribed. There is no real error for 
this one, just an email with "Non-member submission from" in the subject.

2) From another address who is also subscribed I get a bounce back with 
an error that states there is no user on the system. that error is below 
with domains and IP's changed....

so
bq-base.domain.com = the domain name the system was installed with.
list.domain.com = the virtual site/domain the mailing list resides on.

The original message was received at Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:28 -0400
from mail@localhost

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
488-testlist-list
    (reason: 553 5.3.0 <488-testlist-list (at mark) bq-base.domain.com... No such user here)
    (expanded from: 488-testlist-list)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to [127.0.0.1]:

>>> >>> DATA
>>>       
<<< 553 5.3.0 <488-testlist-list (at mark) bq-base.domain.com... No such user here
550 5.1.1 488-testlist-list... User unknown

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Reporting-MTA: dns; bq-base.domain.com
Arrival-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:28 -0400

Final-Recipient: RFC822; 488-testlist-list (at mark) bq-base.domain.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.3.0
Remote-MTA: DNS; [127.0.0.1]
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.0 <488-testlist-list (at mark) bq-base.domain.com>... No such user here
Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:28 -0400

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Return-Path: <owner-testlist (at mark) list.domain.com>
Received: (from mail@localhost)
	by bq-base.domain.com(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k9JIPSjd016240;
	Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:28 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: bq-base.domain.com: mail set sender to owner-testlist (at mark) list.domain.com using -f
Received: from mail.domain.net (mail.domain.net [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx])
	by bq-base.domain.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k9JIPSvT016235
	for <testlist (at mark) list.domain.com>; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:25:28 -0400
X-InBoxFXSMTP: mike (at mark) domain.com : 101906112426
Received: from EDCMCLTBC01 ([24.86.27.177]) by domain.net with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:24:15 -0700
From: "Mike XXXX" <mike (at mark) domain.com>
To: <testlist (at mark) list.domain.com>
Subject: [testlist] test4

So this brings me to wonder - will I:

1) Have to restart sendmail every time a new list is created?

2) Why is the one address seen as a non subscriber? It appears in the 
gui and the relevant config files in the file system.

3) Why is the system trying to deliver to some user in the format 
488-testlist-list (I assume used internally by majordomo) and not 
dealing with it as needed for final delivery?

Any pointers?

Dustin


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	mailing list issue
Date: 	Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:26:14 -0700
From: 	Dustin Krysak <chaos (at mark) digitalcollision.com>
To: 	BQ List <coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org>



hi there, I have a domain setup only for the purpose of a mail list (no 
web and regular email).

so I created a site called list.domain.com and created the appropriate 
MX record (a rec for the list.domain.com, mx record for list.domain.com 
pointing high priority to list.domain.com) to handle that list.domain.com.
I then created a site admin for it and created a mailing list called 
"testlist". I then added 2 subscribers VIA the web interface. One was 
internal (the listadmin) and one external.

For the domains email settings - the only thing to note is that there is 
no alias (as this is not providing the main email service).

The actual mailing list settings are:

Posting Policy: Only subscribers can post messages
Subscription Policy: Confirm email address
max Message Length: 500 kb
Reply Policy: reply to list


So now from the external address (that is subscribed), I send an email 
to: testlist (at mark) list.domain.com

I then get a bounce back with the following error:


Your message could not be delivered.

The recipient's computer rejected your e-mail. 
Please verify the recipient's e-mail address and resend. 

   Recipient: <testlist (at mark) list.domain.com>
   Reason:    5.7.1 <testlist (at mark) list.domain.com>... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.


Now obviously I must be missing something...

ideas?

d