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Date:  Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:27:29 -0600
From:  "Tony Loosle" <tony-bq (at mark) loosle.com>
Subject:  [coba-e:13708] Re: SV:  Re: email problem
To:  coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
Message-Id:  <200808081027290308.4C0E5BD5 (at mark) mail.loosle.com>
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On 8/8/2008 at 11:09 AM Thomas Petersen wrote:

>-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>Fra: Larry Smith [mailto:lesmith (at mark) ecsis.net] 
>Sendt: 8. august 2008 01:28
>Til: coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
>Emne: [coba-e:13700] Re: email problem
>
>On Thu August 7 2008 18:14, Everard Brown wrote:
>> On Thursday August 7, 2008, Larry Smith wrote:
>> > On Thu August 7 2008 15:57, Tony Loosle wrote:
>> > > On 8/7/2008 at 12:24 PM Larry Smith wrote:
>> > > >On Thu August 7 2008 12:05, Tony Loosle wrote:
>> > > >> I have a few bq servers.  My main domain is s1i.net, so I name
>them,
>> > > >> bq01.s1i.net, bq02.s1i.net, etc.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I do not run email on any of my bq servers.   Yet, I do need
>web
>> > > >> pages, forms etc. to go to email.  So if I use and email on a
>bq
>> > > >> server that
>> > > >
>> > > >wants
>> > > >
>> > > >> to goto say, tony (at mark) s1i.net, then the server chokes and says that
>> > > >> email is not on this server?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I have email disabled from the gui on the servers but still get
>> > > >> errors.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Can I edit some file so that email will leave the server?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> tony
>> > > >
>> > > >If you are actually "sli.net" then your problem is that sli.net
>does
>> > > >not have any MX records so the box does not know what to do with
>> > > >the mail.  Assign an MX record and the box should automatically
>pick
>> > > >that up and deliver accordingly. (as long as you have nothing in
>the
>> > > >mail boxes for any domain).
>> > > >
>> > > >--
>> > > >Larry Smith
>> > > >lesmith (at mark) ecsis.net
>> > >
>> > > i do have mx records setup for s1i.net.  The dns is ran on other
>> > > servers.
>> > >
>> > > here is an example of a returned message:
>> > >
>> > > The original message was received at Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:49:38
>-0600
>> > > from apache@localhost
>> > >
>> > >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>> > > promo (at mark) s1i.net
>> > >     (reason: 553 5.3.0 <promo (at mark) s1i.net>... No such user here)
>> > >     (expanded from: promo (at mark) s1i.net)
>> > >
>> > >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>> > >
>> > > ... while talking to [127.0.0.1]:
>> > > >>> DATA
>> > >
>> > > <<< 553 5.3.0 <promo (at mark) s1i.net>... No such user here
>> > > 550 5.1.1 promo (at mark) s1i.net... User unknown
>> > > <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)
>> > >
>> > > Reporting-MTA: dns; bq05.s1-i.net
>> > > Arrival-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:49:38 -0600
>> > >
>> > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; promo (at mark) s1i.net
>> > > Action: failed
>> > > Status: 5.3.0
>> > > Remote-MTA: DNS; [127.0.0.1]
>> > > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.0 <promo (at mark) s1i.net>... No such user
>here
>> > > Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:49:38 -0600
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > tony
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>> >
>> > One, please do not top post if possible, makes things hard to follow
>and
>> > harder to respond.
>> >
>> > Two, according to my servers, sli.net does not have any MX, either
>you
>> > are not giving us the correct domain name or your DNS is not
>configured
>> > or propogated correctly.
>> >
>> > host -t mx sli.net
>> > sli.net has no MX record
>> >
>> > three, your server is "talking" to itself (note the talking to
>127.0.0.1
>> > entry) which is probably why the "no such user" response which is
>also
>> > a symptom of no MX record for the/a domain.
>> >
>> > Your primary DNS on this box (bq05.sl-i.net ???) appears to be
>Akamai (at
>> > least that is the answer I get from whois).
>> >
>> > Either way, I still answer the same, no MX record for the domain so
>the
>> > box does not know what to do with the mail...
>>
>> I see the MX record for the domain from here...
>>
>> 1#> dig mx s1i.net
>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>> s1i.net.                86400   IN      MX      10 mail.s1i.net.
>>
>> 2#> dig mail.s1i.net
>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>> mail.s1i.net.           86335   IN      A       a.b.c.d
>>
>>
>> Is it possible that there are some "other" MX records for s1i.net in
>the
>> DNS configuration of bq05.s1-i.net ?
>
>Interesting, dig ns sli.net says a and b.ns.ultsearch.com are the
>servers,
>
>dig mx sli.net  (at mark) a.ns.ultsearch.com.
>
>; <<>> DiG 9.3.4-P1 <<>> mx sli.net  (at mark) a.ns.ultsearch.com.
>; (2 servers found)
>;; global options:  printcmd
>;; Got answer:
>;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 14009
>;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
>;; QUESTION SECTION:
>;sli.net.                       IN      MX
>
>;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
>sli.net.                2560    IN      SOA     a.ns.ultsearch.com. 
>hostmaster.sli.net. 1218144619 16384 2048 1048576 2560
>
>;; Query time: 67 msec
>;; SERVER: 66.116.109.47#53(66.116.109.47)
>;; WHEN: Thu Aug  7 18:24:39 2008
>;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 90
>
>returns no MX record here or at the root nameservers.
>sure yours is not cached or something, I do not see an 86400 entry
>anywhere in the sli.net soa records (or an MX record).
>
>-- 
>Larry Smith
>lesmith (at mark) ecsis.net
>
>
>Please, it is s1i.net s(one)i.net  not sli.net 
>
>/Thomas




Thanks Thomas, you are exactly correct on the domain name!   the mx record does exsit, but the box is talking to itself and can't find the email user.

No dns or email is run on the bq boxes, but I can't get email out of them to my domain s1i.net, s(one)i.net.


Should be a forward or something I can put in the box to solve this?

tony