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Date:  Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:52:13 +0100
From:  "Chris Pelling" <chris (at mark) idcnet.co.uk>
Subject:  [coba-e:13317] Re: BQ Design Suggestion  OT
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Hi Greg,

We are doing a lot of module work at the moment for the NetEarth One module,
ill get my devs to take a look at Matt's DevKit.

Kind regards,

Chris Pelling
NetEarth One, Inc.
Reseller.netearthone.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Schiedler [mailto:Greg (at mark) Limo.Net] 
Sent: 14 June 2008 20:28
To: coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
Subject: [coba-e:13314] Re: BQ Design Suggestion

I'm not great with PHP but I'm curretnly trying WHMCS out on a limited
basis.  For anyone who is interested I will attach the generic PHP to
interface with WHMCS.  If anyone can configure a full intergation I would be
interested.

Greg :-)

> Hi Doug,
>
> You could use something like WHMCS or AWBS  *http://www.whmcs.com or
> http://www.awbs.com* both are fairly cheap non expensive to implement.
>
> I see that Jim is creating / created an API tool, so you could hook 
> WHMCS or AWBS quite easily, both give you a blank canvas to integrate 
> hosting panels.
> I know I mentioned last year on the AWBS forum about BQ, and Ernie 
> (who I believe is in this list) stated everything is there to do it.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Chris Pelling
> NetEarth One, Inc.
> reseller.netearthone.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Harvey [mailto:ohgoodiee (at mark) gmail.com]
> Sent: 14 June 2008 17:46
> To: coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
> Subject: [coba-e:13310] Re: BQ Design Suggestion
>
> Richard, Have a very good point there!
>
> So what are the options for provisioning/billing?  So far, all I've 
> run into are way to expensive for a start-up.
>
> Doug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Siddall [mailto:cobalt (at mark) elirion.net]
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:38 AM
> To: coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
> Subject: [coba-e:13309] Re: BQ Design Suggestion
>
> Doug Harvey wrote:
>> Hi Richard. That's why I suggested the PKG idea that you could buy. I
> don't
>> think it's a bad idea at all. It could be made where when someone is 
>> installing, there would be a choice to leave it out.  I do understand 
>> that there would be a lot to think about as far as implementation.  
>> But I still do not think it's a bad idea.
>>
>> Doug
>> Sleepycathosting.com
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Sorry, it's still not a good idea.  It's actually a very bad idea as 
> you don't want to run your billing system on the same computer that 
> provides shared hosting.
>
> Look at it this way.  You said you want to automatically switch off 
> hosting for people who fail to pay their bills.  Presumably you're 
> letting people pay by credit card.  Presumably, you keep a credit card 
> on file so that you can automatically bill them.  You don't want to 
> keep customer credit card numbers on a machine that is easily hacked 
> such as a shared hosting server.
>
> You want to keep customer information on a physically secure, 
> firewalled server, separate from insecure machines like shared hosting
servers.
> Sure, your billing server wants to talk to your hosting servers so it 
> can keep up to date with the changes your customers are making, 
> provision new accounts, etc., but it can use the command line tools 
> over SSH, or the web services API that Jim Scott is working on, or 
> something similar.
>
> Also, see question 1.6 on the Payment Card Industry Data Security 
> Standard (PCI/DSS) self-assessment questionnaire:
>> 1.6
>> Is payment card account information stored in a database located on 
>> the internal network (not the DMZ) and protected by a firewall?
> https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/pdfs/pci_saq_v1-0.pdf
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> 	Richard Siddall
>

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