This is a nicely put answer.
Best,
--
Arthur Sherman
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeffie [mailto:bluequartzlist (at mark) hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:11 AM
> To: coba-e (at mark) bluequartz.org
> Subject: [coba-e:12305] Re: Bluequartz Community Support
>
> Hi Rashid,
>
> You might be interested to know that this e-mail is being
> used to attack me elsewhere on the net... That said I'm
> going to reply and try to clear up a few things.. Please
> send all flames to /dev/null
>
> > Recently I have been reading the dialogue with Zeffie
> (Jeff) and others.
> > I
> > am most disappointed in the behavior of Zeffie and would
> like to say,
> > please join the team. We rather have your technical prowess and
> > effort working in a cooperative dialogue rather than a spirited
> > attack.
>
> First I want you and any other readers to know that I never
> intended to make an attack towards anyone but only to openly
> discuss the changing of the user/passwd system from an
> advanced db system back to flat files that I've had to repair
> multiple times.. I brought this up for the betterment of the
> community and the BQ software.
>
> While I would be happy to provide my "technical prowess" as I
> can, Most people in the community have been scared about
> accepting anything "foreign".
> like I'm going to make a website (www.bqforge.com) in my name
> and then go around hacking people.. An example of this would
> be the netatalk rpm I built as a free download. I can't help
> but feel that the person that wanted it was scared off from
> using it...
>
> I really enjoy (as a hobby) building things outside the norm
> of things like ProFTP and dovecot but when I spend time on
> something only to be the only one to care, it's rather
> disappointing. especially when I would like to use it myself
> and would like to hear some results from someone that has
> used and configured it before.. I'm not picking on that
> poster here so please don't take it that way...
>
> > I am no expert in Linux but that doesn't mean I am not an expert in
> > being human. I know if I speak to people nicely I will most likely
> > get what I want rather than speaking to them in a harsh
> manner. There
> > are times when one needs to turn up the heat, but this is
> not one those situations.
>
> Just so you know.. I'm a pretty happy person until I'm
> attacked and there are both "Trolls" and other people that
> read my posts and take them in the wrong way. When I'm
> attacked I will defend myself and I don't feel that's wrong.
> in this case I was attacked and insulted several times. I
> also don't like people that then lie about technical issues
> and when it's done for financial gain in an open source
> environment. In those cases I'm happy to set the record
> straight and expose the lie with a technical "report"
> using my technical ability.
>
> > Therefore, let me suggest that you take the offer of those who have
> > said that you join the developers list and release your
> updates within
> > that list for discussion and dialogue. And if you are turned down,
> > then accept the groups decision and if you want to then
> continue with
> > your offers, then do so on your site. Those who want to take
> > advantage of your offers will do so. But please keep the negative
> > criticisms toned down. Talk to the technical merits of
> your methods,
> > not how superior they are.
>
> I have looked twice now and have not been able to find
> anything related to a devel mailing list to join and I have
> never been invited to any other BQ list. Some of the people
> you referred to are my direct competition (even thought I
> don't have any competing BQ products at this time.) so being
> turned down by my competition is the same as letting my
> competition close my business. I wouldn't expect them to
> welcome someone else into their money stream.
>
> So all that said... I'm currently trying to decide on what
> to do with the BQ project as related to my time and if I
> should spend anymore time on it or just go build my own
> version.. My concern however is that BQ will be short lived
> due to upcoming changes in php and things like the db
> removal. I don't need the stress of fighting with people
> about stupid things or when they don't stick to a technical
> discussion at all. I'm not here to be insulted but rather to
> find new and more interesting things to build. I'm a builder...
>
> Again, Please send all flames to /dev/null
>
> --
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