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Date:  Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:01:34 -0400
From:  "Zeffie" <bluequartzlist (at mark) hotmail.com>
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> Would this be going better for all if the list of "free" add-ons/ fixes 
> you have put together in the last 2+ months be in the SVN, not  just free 
> standalones from your site?  That's how I read the  "elevate", anyway. 
> That way all general users and customers of all  would have assurance that 
> everything will work and play well  together, and everyone can be 
> contributing so that all benefit in the  end rather than both efforts and 
> the end product duplicate or  fragment.  I don't begrudge anyone the right 
> to have a product, and  it's best for all for their to be multiple 
> purchase options- but  improvements to base that aren't being synch'd to 
> the shared codebase  in the customary manner can end up a big pain for 
> all, and lead to  this type of thread.
>
> For me, I work for a company that puts a GUI on things that customers 
> could often do on their own (nothing in this business space),  although 
> our stuff makes a really complete end-result and has many  working 
> full-time to keep it going (and growing), which wouldn't  happen if our 
> customers were rolling-their-own underpinnings on top  of running all 
> their "real" business concerns.  There are always  reasons that there will 
> be customers for this kind of thing: lack  of / no interest in the 
> skillset needed to work on the underpinnings,  no time to work on the 
> underpinnings as that isn't their main  business, and if their business is 
> going well it's faster and cheaper  in the end just to purchase it- costs 
> can be passed along and in the  end no one minds, esp. for many repackaged 
> OSS solutions where cost/ benefits ratio is high.
>
> I think the this debate over methods etc. would come across  differently 
> if everyone involved were/ were able to contribute to the  shared 
> codebase-- and I don't see anything you specifically are  making available 
> separately that anyone else is charging for, but I  haven't looked much. 
> Fixes/updates are always fun, but I personally  feel they would work best 
> if they were in a form to be included into  the shared codebase-- that 
> helps the project and likely this type of  thread on multiple levels.
>
> Can you do this for your work you have done on the shared codebase,  and 
> do you think it would help?  Given how this thread started, and  how it 
> has gone, to me as an observer it seems that yes, it would  help, and make 
> best use of the time that you are spending, both for  you and for your 
> customers, and the project as a whole- which is  again, in everybody's 
> interest at every level.
>

Brian,
    Your welcome to use the rpm's in any way you want.  My terms were not 
directed towards you.  At the same time I'll be happy to keep them updated 
as needed and requested.  The reason I have a fee at bqforge is because I 
don't want people hitting the 3 repos every hour. I pay for my bw....  It 
has always been my plan to release them in a timely fashion (like snort 
rules) but I got delayed this year...  The bqforge fee also included support 
as needed and spending time on free support is not something I can afford to 
do at this time...

so have at it and feel free to let me know if there is something else I need 
to be building..  I really enjoy building rpms and one of the main reasons 
I've gone public this list is so I could find some more interesting things 
to build.

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